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Postpartum Sadness, Depression and Anxiety
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- Married2PPD 1 comment
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I know this is for moms, by moms, but I would really like some insights on PPD from the mothers perspective, and the best things I can be doing to help. You ladies mind if I sit in?
about 1 year ago
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- Shannon 4 comments
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I suffered from this after the birth of my first son and during my my pregnancy with my second son and after his birth. It was a long battle.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Happy to hear you are doing better Shannon!
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
SO happy to hear you're doing much better. My little ones are almost 3, 4, and 6. I agree that it is important to spread the word about this and how it isn't just a few weeks of the blues. It's what keeps Katherine and I blogging, tweeting, and connecting with so many moms on a daily basis. Hope to see you at chat tomorrow! Warmest, Lauren
about 1 year ago
Shannon
I am doing much better. The boys are almost 2 1/2 and almost 3 1/2 now. I pray you are doing well! Thanks for your kind words. I think it is so important to spread the word about this and how it isn't just a few weeks of the "blues".
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Your story sounds so much like mine. I had it after the birth of my first daughter, during pregnancy with my second and after her birth. It was a long battle indeed. I hope you are doing better these days.
about 1 year ago
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- Janna 2 comments
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I suffered from PPD and PPA and even though I am so so so much better I hate that I am still weak when it comes to certain stories that I read.. My question is will I ever get my confidence back? I read a story or hear something someone said and I think to myself---is that me could I get PPP or something more serious... I hate that I question myself
about 1 year ago
Dr. Shosh
Feeling vulnerable isn't weakness. Those of us who have "been there" certainly understand what it feels like to be shaky after a depression or anxiety, when we didn't feel shaky before. If the level of fear is high, or you find yourself obsessing about it, talk with someone with expertise who can reassure you. Often with this extra bit of education you can learn to self-calm instantly.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Rebuilding confidence after PPD/PPA is a tough road. Even the smallest tremor can shake you to your core. If you find that you're most shaken when you read certain stories, stop reading those stories. I have had to force myself to stop watching news broadcasts because they really get to me. If it's something that does not directly affect me or something I cannot directly affect, I don't bother myself with the details if I know they will adversely affect my well-being. As a Postpartum Survivor, I have learned that it is okay to put myself first and censor what comes into my life. There is the risk of having PPD/PPA again in the future. And PPP is out there as well. But PPP is a rare occurrence but is unfortunately sensationalize most often by the media so that's what we hear/read. I hope you'll attend tomorrow's chat and ask your question then because it is an excellent question and one that many moms with PPD/PPA often ask. Wishing you all the best, Lauren
about 1 year ago
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- Sue 4 comments
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Lauren and Shannon,
Could you guys share your story with me? I am in the same boat, suffered from PPD/A after the birth of my first son and during the pregnancy with my second and still (22 months postpartum) in the recovery process. Zoloft used to work for me till I weaned off of it and got back on, it hasn't worked the same ever since. I'm still trying to find the right combo of meds and need to know that things will be ok.
Thank you so much!
about 1 year ago
mindimer
Agreed on not watching the clock. I may be an outlier, but my youngest of three is eight, and I have not been able to wean off the zoloft. In fact, other life circumstances have prompted me to add Clonazepam for anxiety, and Wellbutrin to boost the Zoloft. It drives me crazy to be on the meds still, but it beats the snot out of crying all day, curled up in a ball. Which is where I was before I got help.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
The best advice my mom gave me in the thick of it all was to stop watching the clock. Once I did, such a weight lifted off my shoulders. After all, if you're not watching the clock, the clock can't "watch" you!
about 1 year ago
Sue
Thank you so much for the kind words.!! You have no idea how much they mean to me. You are so right! I need to learn to take things day by day.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Sue - My heart goes out to you. It's such a tough road to travel, especially when the therapy you've tried isn't working. It's so crucial to communicate with your caregivers about how things are going. Remaining silent only hurts you. Your caregivers are only able to help you with what you share. It can take awhile to bounce back from one episode of postpartum, let alone a few in a row. Even a mom without a postpartum episode can take up to two years to fully recover emotionally and physically after giving birth. I remember the days when I wondered if it would ever get better. I felt so lost, alone, and never thought the "fog" would lift. I also remember wondering why I had to take a pill just to be "me." But thankfully I had some great support by my side. Eventually I got well. The key is not to worry about too far into the future. Take it day by day or even hour by hour if you have to. Above all else, keep in mind that a bad day is just that, a bad day. (Of course if you have more than a few in a row, you'll want to talk with your doctor about it) Tomorrow is ALWAYS a new day. ((hugs)) Warmest, Lauren
about 1 year ago
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- Joy 5 comments
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Thanks so much for sharing! I'm currently 22 weeks along and have an active toddler... Unfortunately, at times I'm an emotional wreck! It's good to know that I have some moms to talk to about this!
Mainly, I'm just really scared and overwhelmed.
about 1 year ago
mindimer
Heh. I was just staring at the screen, wondering why I signed up with my nickname, which means nothing to anyone but me. I'm Melinda Roberts of TheMommyBlog.net. Pleased to meet you. : )
about 1 year ago
Joy
Thanks mindimer! I love the moms here!
about 1 year ago
mindimer
Hugs here too. I had four bouts of PPD, and made it through. You WILL survive this. Keep in touch with women here, you will get better.
about 1 year ago
Joy
Thanks lauren-hale! It's just the thought of being able to handle everything and still be a good mom, wife, etc.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
((hugs)) to you. I remember my 2nd pregnancy with an active toddler around. SUCH a difference from my first one! There's not as much rest, there's not as much "freedom," and that makes things very challenging indeed. Is there something particular about your pregnancy and toddler that has you scared and overwhelmed right now? Hope you can make the chat tomorrow!
about 1 year ago
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- joeyfortman 9 comments
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I'm totally bummed that I have TV today-so I can't be here for the discussion... especially since it's something that I'm REALLY fighting now. I have an almost 2 1/2 year old. I've been to 4 therapists-2 psychiatrists-bout 10 different meds...and I'm fearful that I'm never gonna shake it. A lot of bad things happened to me in the short time of my sweet little boys life...so when I talk to someone, I always get 'well no wonder you're fighting depression!' Grr. When I want to hear ways to cope with it. And I've never been told it was postpartum. I want to have another kid-(since we wanted 2 kids close in age)-but fearful of what being pregnant and then having another will do to me!
I've had some really awesome things happen to me too-and yet, I can't be happy or proud about them. My self esteem is pathetic. =(
My husband works 24/7-and when I look to him for support he's got his mind in other things. ((I know he doesn't mean to-but he gets pulled in 1,000 directions and I really take it to heart.))
Now that you know my whole life story (hahaha) my question is-is it possible to STILL have postpartum?
And is having another child a bad thing to do? Also, suggestions on how to deal with it while pregnant.
Sorry for the long winded note...just really could use some help. LOVE that you are having this discussin and I can't wait to read all about it this afternoon.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Joey, if you want to ask a question or talk I'm always available. stonecallis@gmail.com The conversations always continue, so don't feel like you missed out.
about 1 year ago
Emily
Joey, you were here in spirit for the whole, entire Talk!!!! Take your time and read the entire wonderful collection of support, wisdom, questions, experience, knowledge and expertise, and it's all just incredible. It is such a needed an important conversation. Congratulations too on iVoices! And great big hugs for you. xoxo, Emily
about 1 year ago
joeyfortman
OH MY GOSH. I just got home and have to get dinner done but was beside myself when I logged in here!! Emily & Cooper-you two have done such an AWESOME service to so many women with your site!! I'm in heaven. Thank you guys for your comments!! I look at these itty bitty profile pics of all the moms who were here today and just want to hug each one of you. It's going to be finger hugs since you all are so tiny! hahahah. So much I didn't know about ppd. And the fact mindi you were denied is HORRENDOUS!! Off to bake poptarts for dinner. (hahaha.) But can't wait to read and react to all of these... Joey (PS-thanks times 1,000 for the congrats on iVoices!! I seriously got LUCKY. lol. Mindi & Katherine-I'm telling you...it's the fact I have some pseudo experience. And because I begged. hahaha. Not really-but almost. =) I'd love to interview you all for one of my segments. I REALLY think this is a VERY VERY missed conversation. xoxoxo
about 1 year ago
mindimer
Congrats on iVoices! I made the first cut but not the second. Loved the intro video!
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
@mindimer I had no idea that you could be denied insurance coverage due to PPD. That is terrible! I am so glad you mentioned you found coverage through HIPAA. Thank you!
about 1 year ago
mindimer
In the same boat. After so much time, though, it's now labeled Major Depressive Disorder, which makes sense, after eight years. Interesting side note: I have been denied insurance coverage everywhere because I was once diagnosed with PPD. And I wasn't even asking for maternity coverage! It's so aggravating to have trouble finding a provider who gets it, and a company who understands that it's best for children to have a stable mom. Otherwise, they will just have one more generation of claimants, no? (I finally found coverage with the HIPAA program.)
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
I totally agree that a specialist is best. Just email me or ask here at the forum and we can hook you up! And congrats on #ivillage ivoices!!!!!
about 1 year ago
Dr. Shosh
Hi, Dr. Shosh here. It's important to find a specialist in perinatal mental health whenever possible - otherwise it can be so frustrating (as you've already experienced)! With an excellent plan of action for your next pregnancy, you can help minimize - and often prevent - another episode.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Hi there! I hate that you'll miss chat too - you have a lot of GREAT questions. I got the "Anyone in your shoes..." well yeah, of course. But how do I get better? Many say that because they don't know how to help us to get better. Maybe they hope it will fade on it's own. Depression and mental illness scares some people - for some it's a reminder that it could happen to them - for others it's more of a "you can just snap out of it if you wanted to" mindset. I had a lot happen to me after my second daughter which is why I got the "anyone in your shoes..." As I said before, it can take a mom with no events after birth up to 2 years to fully recover emotionally and physically after the birth of a child. Recovery is such a slippery slope with no real time frame. It depends on you, the success of the therapy you're involved in, what's going on, what continues to happen with you, etc. If you have additional issues occur, they tend to snowball and then things get out of hand and you feel like you're drowning in your own life. Having another child after postpartum is a very personal decision. I would recommend reading "What Am I Thinking: Having a Baby After Postpartum" by Karen Kleiman. As for how to deal with it while pregnant, Dr. Shosh has an excellent book - "Pregnant on Prozac" which addresses this issue better than any book I've ever read. I hope she'll chime in on this thread as well. If it makes you feel any better right now, one of the things Karen says in her book is that she worries LESS about moms who have a healthy fear about another pregnancy than moms who are not at all worried. So you're already heading in the right direction there. Again, I'm so glad you've posted and hope you find some solace in reading over the chat this afternoon! Warmest, Lauren Hale
about 1 year ago
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- Dr. Shosh 0 comments
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Hi everybody, glad to pop in early before clients. Lauren is already offering such great advice and support! I'll be back at 1pm ET and look forward to participating more.
about 1 year ago
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- Katherine Stone 0 comments
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Excited to be here for the live chat!
about 1 year ago
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- Kathy Morelli 0 comments
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Hello there - I am here a bit early for the chat. Will pop in and out, thanks, Kathy
about 1 year ago
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- melinda 2 comments
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Early as well but extremely thankful that this chat is available today!
about 1 year ago
melinda
Thanks Katherine!
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Glad you're here!
about 1 year ago
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- Kathy Morelli 3 comments
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Hi - I'm new - is this a teleconference or a live chat feed?
thanks, Kathy
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
thank you ladies!
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Live chat. Just refresh the page to see the latest comments.
about 1 year ago
Joy
Hi Kathy! It's a chat feed... Just refresh and you should be receiving the emails when people reply to you, etc. So glad that you're here!
about 1 year ago
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- Kathy Morelli 0 comments
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Just tweeted and Facebooked this!
about 1 year ago
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- Amber Koter 2 comments
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I am so glad to be here today. Sharing resources around PMDs and offering hope is a blessing!
about 1 year ago
Amber Koter
Thanks, Katherine for that kind introduction.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Awesome to have you with us Amber! Amber is from the blog Beyond Postpartum and knows a thing or two about surviving.
about 1 year ago
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- Kim Rogers 1 comment
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I'm going to try to float in and out!
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Hi Kim!
about 1 year ago
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- Nicole 9 comments
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This is my story...
I have 3 boys all seven years apart! My oldest is my step-son. After my first born I had the "baby blues" that only last a couple of weeks. I had medical issues before I got pregnant with my last son and hadn't expected to become pregnant as quickly as I did. My depression began while I was in my second trimester. It just seemed that when it did, everything just fell apart. I lost my job. Then a month before I was to have my son, I was in a car accident a week later my husband was laid off from work...and things just continued to go down hill. When the day of induction finally came, I was done with the whole pregnancy thing and had high hopes of another peaceful drug free labor and delivery. Sadly, that was NOT the case. I was hooked up to the potocin just fine, labor was very smooth, hardly any pain until I was ready to push. The ONLY think that went to plan was that I didn't have any pain meds. When it came time to deliver, it felt as though something just snapped within me and I just couldn't do it. I freaked out and for some reason was so scared. One moment everything was going normal and everyone was calm, then bam! The baby was stuck on my pelvic bone, his heart rate was lost, he wasn't breathing. The nurse hit the Code Red button and all craziness happened. All of a sudden all these nurses came running into my room and with their help of what felt like them jumping on my stomach and one push, my son was born. The doctor put him on my chest long enough for her to cut the cord and for the NICU head nurse to whisk him away. He had moderate shoulder distorcia (sorry about my many spelling errors) and not breathing on his own. The first time I saw him, is the image I want to erase from my memory for he was so lifeless, his face was all purple and blue, but the rest of his body was sheer white! I had never seen a baby even a newborn that white. Thankfully it didn't take long for him to start to breath on his own! We stayed 2 nights and then released. Then we had to return a day later because his bili levels were nearing 20! Three days later we were once again released. I also chose to nurse him hoping that I would connect with him on a level I didn't think I connected with my older son (he wouldn't latch on no matter what we tried, but I was okay with that). Even though I breast fed for a year, I felt NO connection with him! I was hospitalized right before his first birthday and had to start on medications that left me NO chose but to stop nursing/pumping for him. Even though I felt I had not bonded with him, I felt as though something was taken away from me!
When my son was 3mos. old, I had learned of a PPD Emotional, Anxiety Support Group, and it took everything I had to walk into the door that first time. I did make some wonderful connections with the moms in that group. We were all going through many of the same things and feeling the same. I also suffer from PPA and PPOCD!
My youngest is now just over 2 yrs old. We moved to a new state last year, and I have no family, friends or support people in the new place. I know I have slipped again, and I feel as though I am falling without a safety net beneath me. Please tell me this too shall pass, and that there is hope and a chance at living a complete full life! I stay home all day everyday! This morning I did make a phone call to see about a support group in the city I live in, it didn't look promising. However, I have to believe there is someone out there that is feeling/going through what I am.
about 1 year ago
Diana
Nicole, Oh my gosh, I read your story and you are such a trooper. I think that would be so traumatic with your baby not breathing. Thank goodness for modern technology. I hope you continue to stay strong.
about 1 year ago
Mel
FWIW, Nicole, I felt extremely isolated during my struggle with PPD (a few years back). Thought I'd never survive it, honestly. I started to find great solace in online communities, such as this one, who seemed to "get" that (a) by itself, being a mom to young children is HARD, and (b) that PPD is very real, and therefore I'm not "crazy," and (c) that others before me had survived. Keep reaching out, consider @Diana's suggestion to exercise (even if you start out with just 15 minutes), and believe in yourself, that you can get through this, and it really is finite, not everlasting.
about 1 year ago
Dr. Shosh
You are definitely not alone! And yes, this too shall pass. With proper help you emerge from this latest challenge even better! Your life can feel even more enriched and wonderful.
about 1 year ago
Diana
Nicole, I have had PPD since 1.5 mos post partum. I have been exercising 2 hrs every am and that has helped tremendously. I too have no support grp in our town. I am appalled that a town this big has no support group. Glad you are here!
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
Moving to a new place must have been incredibly difficult, but I'm glad you're here today reaching out. I echo what Amber said, contacting someone in your area who is an expert in PPD is crucial. And as always, the hosts of this talk are here for you!
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Nicole - what a tremendous story you have. I want to share with you something Halle Berry once said on Oprah as she talked about her own depression. She said the first time in the "valley" was hard. It took a long time to get out. But when she went back, she had a "road-map" of what she needed to get out of the valley. Each time it got easier to escape that dark valley. It didn't make the valley any more pleasant but she at least knew she was capable of getting out and what worked for her. You certainly aren't alone in how you're feeling. If you want to friend me and send me a message, I'm a Coordinator with PSI and would be happy to help you in your search for local help in your area. Warmest, Lauren
about 1 year ago
Amber Koter
Thanks for sharing your story so openly. It sounds like you went through a lot of trauma that could be impacting your emotional state, as well. In regards to a support group, I highly recommend reaching out to a PSI coordinator for your state/area at www.postpartum.net. I hope today's chat will offer lots of hope and resources for you!
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
It will pass but you need to talk with someone. What did you find in your city? It was so hard when I felt that alone. I remember it so well but know that you are not, especially today with all of us here. I'm so glad you have joined us.
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
Goodness, Nicole, I hear your story..it is awesome and you have alot to carry!
about 1 year ago
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- Janna 3 comments
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I am so excited
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Hey Janna!
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
Good question!
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Me too! Why do we have to wait 5 more minutes?!?!?
about 1 year ago
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- Erin O 2 comments
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Hi everyone!
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Hi Erin!
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Hi Erin!
about 1 year ago
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- Married2PPD 0 comments
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Thanks for letting me sit in ladies. I am looking forward to your insights.
about 1 year ago
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- Katherine Stone 1 comment
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We're getting started in 2 min so I want to welcome everyone to this chat. Thank you SO MUCH to The Motherhood for letting us talk about the very important topic of mental health during pregnancy and postpartum.
about 1 year ago
Emily
Thank YOU, Katherine, for organizing this!!!
about 1 year ago
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- lauren-hale 1 comment
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Greetings everyone! So excited to be here today! Thank you Katherine for inviting me to be part of this.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Wouldn't be a PPD chat without you!
about 1 year ago
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- Katherine Stone 1 comment
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Joining us today are several awesome women who have survived postpartum depression and anxiety, including Victoria, Alexis, Amber and Lauren. We also have expert Dr. Shoshanna Bennett.
about 1 year ago
Diana
Thanks so much for hosting this chat!
about 1 year ago
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- Kim (@kimworld) 4 comments
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Hi there!
about 1 year ago
Emily
Welcome!
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Hello Kim! Welcome!
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
Hey!
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Hi Kim!
about 1 year ago
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- Alexis Lesa 0 comments
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Hey everyone! So excited to co-host! Thanks to Katherine and The Motherhood for involving me.
about 1 year ago
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- Katherine Stone 0 comments
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I'm told that the way to do this is continually hit your refresh button so you can see the comments that are added. Also, you can comment on what someone else says by clicking the comment button.
about 1 year ago
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- Victoria Mason 1 comment
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Hi Everyone! I am so glad to be here with you all today!
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Hi new mama! Hope you're doing well.
about 1 year ago
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- Katherine Stone 12 comments
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I want to kick off by saying the most important thing about postpartum depression and anxiety, or any mental illness related to pregnancy, childbirth and new motherhood: It's not your fault, and what you have is TEMPORARY and TREATABLE.
about 1 year ago
Nicole
That would be wonderful! Bless your heart! As with everything else...it will take time but will be so worth it!
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
I'm sorry to hear that Nicole. One of the things I'm trying to work with now that I've started a non-profit is the possibility of creating web-based support groups so that women who don't have one in their area can still talk to moms going through the same thing.
about 1 year ago
Nicole
Where I used to live, there was a wonderful support group that I attended, and it was great! I still stay in contact with the nurse who runs it as well as a couple of the other moms. Its just harder now because I am 1000 miles away! I thought that being not only in a bigger state, but a bigger city there would be something out there! I feel your frustration!
about 1 year ago
Diana
Nicole, Sorry to hear that. It's almost as if everyone sweeps it under the rug. Or they don't realize it's PPD. I know one mom told me that last night. She didn't realize what it was. There needs to be more publicity on this very important subject. I feel so frustrated!
about 1 year ago
Nicole
Katherine, I am in Louisville, Ky I did call the number you had emailed me. I spoke with her and at this time there is NOT one support group going on!
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Nicole and Diana, where do you live? (if you don't mind my asking)
about 1 year ago
Nicole
Diana~ I am in the same shoes with looking for a support group! I just received an email I have been waiting for, and there is NOT one group actively going on in my city! I am great full to be a part of today's chat, and to meet other moms who have similar experiences!
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
I had a psychiatrist take care of me throughout the second pregnancy, and I chose to remain on my medication while pregnant. I didn't have postpartum OCD (a form of postpartum anxiety) the second time, thankfully.
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
I did the preventative thing with my second child, too, Victoria. This time around the PPD has been more manageable because I've been a lot more proactive. Not to say that it's been easy, just better.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Don't blame yourself.
about 1 year ago
Diana
I am so glad to hear that. I always seem to blame myself when anything goes wrong. I hope the PPD ends soon. I have not had luck finding a support grp in our town. I am so frustrated!
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
Exactly! I've gone through PPD twice and just had my 6 week check-up this morning for my third baby. This time we decided to be preventative and so far so good.
about 1 year ago
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- Emily 0 comments
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Welcome, everyone!!! Thank you, Katherine, Dr Shosh, Victoria, Alexis, Amber and Lauren for leading this important conversation!
(Remember to refresh the page to see the latest posts.)
about 1 year ago
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- Diana 3 comments
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Hello, I am so glad to be here!
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Diana, I'm sorry I didn't see this question until now. I suppose it can feel like a "nervous breakdown". I would point you to this article, from Psych Central, which explains that a nervous breakdown is simply the popular term for any serious mental illness. http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2009/10/19/what-is-a-nervous-breakdown/
about 1 year ago
Diana
Hello, can the crying episodes be a nervous breakdown?
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Hi Diana!
about 1 year ago
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- Dr. Shosh 2 comments
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Hi, great to be here. I'm looking forward to this hour! Thank you for leading the chat, Katherine.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Good Afternoon, Dr. Shosh! Glad you are here.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Hi Dr. Shosh
about 1 year ago
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- Janna 3 comments
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I have a question-- do i just ask it or wait
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Go ahead and ask.
about 1 year ago
Cooper
just ask!
about 1 year ago
Joy
I would just go ahead and ask, Janna.
about 1 year ago
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- Cooper 2 comments
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hi everyone! Thank you so much for being a part of this very important Talk.
about 1 year ago
Joy
Agreed! Thanks you rockin, Motherhood founders!
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Thank you for hosting such an important discussion. I know we are all thankful that The Motherhood is hosting this topic.
about 1 year ago
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- Katherine Stone 14 comments
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To those who have been through postpartum depression, what is one thing you'd like the moms suffering right now to know?
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Mel, I don't perceive it negatively. We can't judge each other. We need to support each other's choices. Do what you need to do to be present in your life and for your baby. Getting help is a gift to you and your family.
about 1 year ago
Mel
I hope what I'm about to say isn't perceived negatively... here goes: there is sooooo much pressure to breast feed. And I for one do NOT dispute all the benefits of breast feeding. But for me, I had to choose: breastfeed and help my child's immune system, etc., OR switch baby to bottle so I could take medication and GET BETTER. I finally decided that my child needed a healthier, happier mommy on anti-depressants over the prospect of a non-functional mommy.
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
wonderful comments, thanks, it sounds like you had a baptism by fire into the me-my baby- life balance!
about 1 year ago
Diana
I get that. I feel like another person too! I also feel crazy a lot. And wonder why this is happening to me.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Melinda - I had to make that choice too - not because of medication but because EP'ing was literally interfering with my mental health. Because of it, I was trapped at home and could barely go out. As a result, I was grumpy, frustrated, angry, and very quick to yell at my children, husband, dogs, etc. It came down to the decision of: What's more important? My mental health and my relationship with my family OR that my child get breastmilk? My family won out and I put my daughter on formula. She is thriving and a healthy 4yo. We bonded more after I stopped pumping too. It's a personal decision, one you must weigh carefully. I don't feel you should be forced into stopping though. But it really is a matter of your well-being vs. the benefits of breastmilk.
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
I would say that they should know that PPD creates a different person within the person. When I was at my worst, I felt like someone else was living in my body, and it was the most frightening thing I'd ever experienced. But it was even more horrifying when I thought that the things I was doing was because of the person I was. When I finally realized that the PPD was causing very different actions and reactions than my normal self would do, my attitude toward myself changed a lot.
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
My first time with postpartum depression I felt violent towards perfect strangers and no connection to my child. It took me almost a year to bond with her. I wanted to crawl into my storage space and live there. I cried all the time. I yelled at total strangers and said incoherent things during meetings at work and even checked someone into a wall at work because I felt that angry.
about 1 year ago
melinda
They want me to quit breast feeding and no one is supportive. They want me to stop breast feeding so I can not only take zoloft (250 mg which I am currently on) but abilify and I can NOT breast feed with this drug I keep dragging my feet as I do not want to give up breast feeding
about 1 year ago
Nicole
Even though I feel the way I feel at this moment, I think it is important to know that...you may feel as if you are all alone in this, but know you are not. And that as hard as it is to reach out, taking the first step is half the battle.
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
sorry - put my comment in the wrong place above...!
about 1 year ago
melinda
I never had it with my first 5.....but the 6th. I had 6 surgeries after she was born and sent home each time to deal with my first 5 and a colicky newborn. My little one is about 15 months now and I just can't work though this
about 1 year ago
Kim Rogers
That you will be yourself again, and will be *honestly* happy again. You will love life, love being a mom, and love your kids... it is TEMPORARY! And support is here :)
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
I would want moms suffering right now to know that it won't always be so dark and hopeless. You aren't alone. More and more moms are sharing their experiences and reaching out to other moms. As we do this, it increases awareness, builds support, and we can also help encourage each other to seek good professional help.
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
That they are not "crazy". I felt so many different types of emotions on all levels and talking with someone who had been through this before helped immensely and assisted me in taking the steps needed to seek treatment to fight PPD.
about 1 year ago
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- Kathy Morelli 6 comments
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Well, I'd love them to know two things: don't be afriad, ashamed to seek help and also there is a long life ahead and PPD is a bump in the road of life and can be a maturing experience from which to draw depth & strength later on in life (sounds corny)
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Amen to that, Kathy! Some of the strongest women I know are PMD survivors. (And quite a few of them are here today!)
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
thanks for your insight, and yes, life is challenging and we are strong survivors!
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
I've had other challenges as well since my PPD and I can honestly say that having been through PPD really prepared me to better deal with those challenges. It's a little strange to say I'm grateful for PPD but at this point, I really am.
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
thank you, but as a 53 year old woman, I have had other depressive episodes (the last being PPD many years ago) and since then many life challenges, such as illness un my family, and it is one of many real struggles that can be a part of our life
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
@lauren-hale I could not agree more!
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
It doesn't sound corny - there is a lot of truth in that statement. A LOT of truth. It's hard to see the lessons in PPD when you're in the midst of it but it has helped me to grow so much.
about 1 year ago
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- Katherine Stone 0 comments
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Also, if you have a question or comment, just go ahead and ask it or say it. We'll all be refreshing and scrolling up and down to answer everything.
about 1 year ago
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- Sara 11 comments
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Can PPD develop months after birth?
about 1 year ago
Nicole
It can happen at any time. My son is just over 2 yrs old, and I have been battling through PPD/PPA and PPOCD since he was 2 mos old. I was hesitant to start any medications because of nursing, and I was ashamed that I felt so badly. I hid from my family and friends. This is a roller coaster ride that doesn't stop at the same time for all the riders. Every woman is different and so are her experiences.
about 1 year ago
jesika
my son was about nine months before mine showed
about 1 year ago
Dr. Shosh
PPD can begin any time within the first year following delivery. But, there's nothing to be afraid of - you just need a wellness strategy.
about 1 year ago
Sara
Wow! Are you on any antidepressants?
about 1 year ago
Kim Rogers
With my second it showed up at 10 months postpartum... I'm just weaning meds and my little one is 21 months!
about 1 year ago
Emily
Victoria, it must be terrifying to wait not knowing. Are you taking action in anticipation of the possibility?
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
I wasn't diagnosed with my first until I was eight months postpartum, and I had PPD until he was over 18 months old.
about 1 year ago
Sara
I definitely started feeling it about 2 months afterward. This is my first so it took me by surprise.
about 1 year ago
melinda
They tell me what I have is no longer "PPD" as the baby is 15 months and now it is "clinical" depression as I am too far out to still have it considered PPD......Thoughts? I never got OVER the PPD
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Yes. It can show up in the first couple of months, but some women don't get it, or don't notice it, until much later.
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
Absolutely! It did for me both times. I would hit the two month mark and BAM! I'm six week post-birth right now with my third and getting a little freaked out. I keep waiting for it to hit me like a truck.
about 1 year ago
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- Joy 9 comments
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Most of what I'm feeling is this huge emotional roller coaster... I feel totally overwhelmed, sad, scared one minute and then I'm ok the next... and I just don't want to transfer it to my family (husband and toddler) plus it's not good for the baby... Any thoughts?
about 1 year ago
Joy
Thanks so much!
about 1 year ago
Dr. Shosh
Concentrate on getting the proper physical and emotional help for you! When you're feeling better, your family will benefit. The "roller coaster" is often due to the chemicals shifting in your brain (and other life/baby factors too). I'm a big believer in getting a real assessment in order to receive an individualized plan of action to feel better!
about 1 year ago
Amber Koter
Sometimes women hesitate to reach out and seek help/treatment because they find themselves on a roller coaster daily, hourly or even by the minute. Feeling like your emotions are not easy to regulate right now is definitely something I would encourage you to share with your doctor.
about 1 year ago
Joy
Great idea! I'll definitely do that for my next appt.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
I would have a discussion with your doctor the next time you go in. And perhaps keep track of your moods/emotions for about a week or so before you go in so you both can look at them to see if there's a pattern.
about 1 year ago
Joy
not yet... I've mainly just talked to my husband and he's really great at getting me calmed down :)
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
I'll bet you are a "good enough" mother....
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Have you talked to your doctor? It's okay to do that, and to say what you've just said here.
about 1 year ago
Sara
I feel the exact same way!
about 1 year ago
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- Janna 4 comments
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PPP--- is it usually in the first 90 days? i read a lot of blogs and one person said she had a psychotic event take place after being on a certain antidepresssant--- what causes that? is it over dosage of the drug? it just scared me... what is the difference between that and ppp? also is it uncommon for women to be taking two antidepressants? I am on cymbalta and celexa and that makes me nervous...
about 1 year ago
Janna
Thanks so much
about 1 year ago
Dr. Shosh
There's a huge difference between postpartum depression (PPD) and postpartum psychosis (PPP). If PPP is going to occur, it typically is there within the first month (it usually begins within the first few days following delivery). As long as you're working with an MD - preferably a psychiatrist - who has expertise in this field, don't be concerned with being on two antidepressants. Hopefully you're also working with someone to help you with a comprehensive wellness plan including nutrition, sleep, exercise, and the right types of support.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Postpartum Psychosis usually shows up in the first few weeks. Women who have severe depression though, that has perhaps been untreated and gotten really bad, can have a psychotic episode.
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
I think it's more of a chemical reaction to a certain drug, not necessarily that it's an overdose. Although it is possible that a change in dosage could alleviate PPP symptoms. I was on two different antidepressants for a long time, and I felt great. I just needed two different meds for two different symptoms of PPD.
about 1 year ago
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- melinda 6 comments
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I begged for my family to send me to a psychiatric unit that specializes in PPD.....no one around here knows ANYTHING! No unit in the US has a set up that you can take your baby with you so you don't miss out on bonding.....Why is that? And I mean I checked ALL over the US
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
There is a hospital in Providence, Rhode Island that does accept babies. It's outpatient (Women's and Infants) and you go all day long and keep the baby with you. Such programs are common in Europe, but we don't have enough of them here yet.
about 1 year ago
melinda
Well, Iowa City has one (we live in Iowa) HOWEVER, I did NOT want to leave my baby....I wanted to find somewhere that would allow my baby to be with me in some capacity so I could continue to bond and breast feed and in our case I was NOT bonding with the baby due to all the stress I was under so I did not pursue this any longer ;( They need a facility that accepts moms and babies and babies are kept in a secure area on the floor and moms can see them and be assured they are safe!!!! I know more moms would get help if this were an option
about 1 year ago
melinda
Yeah but north carolina will not keep the baby in the hospital .....they will let you have visits with your baby ...checked into that
about 1 year ago
Amber Koter
There are a few hospitals that offer a specialty in PMDs. Which part of the country do you live in?
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
That is definitely something that needs to be addressed.
about 1 year ago
Janna
me too I checked everywhere.. The only place I know of that is even close is in North Carolina
about 1 year ago
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- Sue 8 comments
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I am currently on Zoloft and it's not working as well as it used to. What do I do now?
about 1 year ago
Mel
In addition to @Katherine's statement: I had been on Zoloft for quite some time (ppd first, then major depressive disorder) when the zoloft stopped working for me. I have no idea what changed, but adjusting dosage didn't help; I tried "drug free," found it wasn't for me; and have had good success with generic (yay - CHEAPER!) prozac. Just a thought - even one person's body can change how it reacts to a medicine over time....
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
The truth is that different meds work differently for different people. So what one person says worked for them on this forum really doesn't matter. Your body is unique. That's why you have to talk continuously and openly about your symptoms and side effects. Also, if you feel your doc isn't listening or you are getting nowhere, it's ok to get a new one. You can always ask one of us who the specialists are, as there may be one in your area.
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
I have had great results with Celexa. And as corny as this sounds- exercise has been a life saver for me. I go out for a run or a walk or to the gym and it saves me. I journaled the first time around too. I talked with a lot of women in the same boat online as well.
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
Talk to a psychiatrist. They can usually help you find the right prescription/dosage. It's not an exact science, so sometimes it takes more than one try.
about 1 year ago
Sue
Tried Abilify, didn't work for me. Wondering if I need to start all over again, and how that process goes.
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
Katherine Kendall-Tackett has a book on non-pharmacologic tx for depression u may want to check out to add to your regimen
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
First, have you talked to the doctor that prescribed the Zoloft? It didn't work for me- I took it my first round. A psychiatrist will help figure out a good drug fit for you and dosage.
about 1 year ago
melinda
same here.....they want to add abilify to the zoloft but I can't because I am breast feeding. Surely there has to be SOMETHING! I have been on zoloft for over a year and feel it really is not doing its job
about 1 year ago
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- Deborah 6 comments
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When should a new mom seek medical help? (I never did....and forums like this didn't exist 16 years ago. I suffered through alone--scared and overwhelmed)
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
What Dr. Shosh said.
about 1 year ago
Dr. Shosh
If the normal, mild Baby Blues aren't gone by about 3 weeks postpartum and they linger, get help. Also, if the severity of the symptoms get in the way of your daily life, even if it's immediately following the delivery, don't wait - get help right away. If a woman isn't able to sleep AT NIGHT when her baby is sleeping, this is also a warning sign to get help now.
about 1 year ago
Kim Rogers
I had it right from the moment my son was born and thought it was normal.... trudged through for 6 long weeks, then still went another 4 months before trying to find help for what was going on... So I completely agree with Katherine! When I had it with my second at 10 months in, I noticed the signs and within a week and a half I was on my meds and on the road to recovery. Much faster turnaround...
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
The first time I really felt like I needed help was when I had a self-harming thought. It scared me so much I called the doctor almost immediately. But I wish I had known to call sooner, when I was starting to feel completely hopeless that I'd ever be a good mother.
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
Great question. It's hard to know when but if you have an inkling that maybe PPD is the issue you should first consult your OB or regular doctor. Even before your six week post-birth check up or if it is after. Just pick up the phone and make that call. Don't be embarrassed or anything. Just make the call to talk to them.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Here's what I tell moms: If you have the symptoms of PPD or PPA for more than 2 weeks, and they stay the same or get worse, you need to seek professional help. Here's a list of the symptoms: http://www.postpartumprogress.com/weblog/2009/11/the-symptoms-of-postpartum-depression-anxiety-in-plain-mama-english-1.html
about 1 year ago
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- ThisFullHouse 11 comments
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Here to show my support, as a person who did NOT seek medical help for her PPD and totally wishes she did!!! {{{hugs}}}
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Advocates like myself and Lauren and Amber try and try to get the talk shows and news outlets to cover moms who have recovered. We are normal everyday people who had a temporary illness. They tend to prefer talking to moms who are in the midst of suffering, which I find exploitative. (Is that a word?)
about 1 year ago
ThisFullHouse
For me, it was easier to make a connection with bedraggled and deranged looking, because I actually thought that every new mother MUST be going through the same thing I was. That I should be able to "get over it" or, as my MIL insisted, "wait for those feeling to pass."
about 1 year ago
Mel
News/Media-wise, it seems the only stories that get attention are the severest, the post-partum psychosis (I am NOT a medical professional, so that may be an incorrect term) people. There are sooooo many "shades of gray" before that... THAT is what I wish I had known during my struggle with PPD a few years back.
about 1 year ago
Karen Bayne
Katherine - yes, that's what I'm talking about. I felt terrible inside and had terrifying anxiety, but also made lunch and did laundry. I couldn't connect my feelings and experiences to this pre-formed image that I had of post-partum depression.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
The TV news generally only shows women who are bedraggled and deranged looking, when most of us with PPD look like normal everyday new mothers. It's very misleading.
about 1 year ago
ThisFullHouse
Television and magazines are a great example, Karen! All "those" moms looked so happy and well adjusted. Their babies NEVER cried. Their houses looked SO clean and sterile. BLECH. Greatest takeaway from attending forums like this is that PPD is normal and treatable!!!
about 1 year ago
Karen Bayne
Agreed. I think it just didn't look like what I thought it would (based on what, tv? the news?) 11 years ago when I had my first child. I was just not aware of its variations. I didn't associate my feelings PPD - which means to me now, I was really suffering because I thought what was happening was normal.
about 1 year ago
ThisFullHouse
I meant, when I was "not" connecting with baby #2.
about 1 year ago
ThisFullHouse
Absolutely, Deb!!! Was SO afraid when I was "connecting" with my 2nd baby. I was angry, frustrated and down right convinced I was a bad mother, after all!
about 1 year ago
Deborah
me too, Liz. A chat like this would have been so helpful, don't you think?
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Thank you Elizabeth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
about 1 year ago
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- Married2PPD 16 comments
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My wife and I have just had our first baby, my son who is now two months old. She goes into very intense emotional breakdowns due to her PPD, and my support doesnt seem to be helping. What advice would you give as to the best ways to support her until all this passes?
about 1 year ago
michelle
all i wanted to hear was " i am here for you, i support you, you are not alone and you will get better..."
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Did someone recommend Karen Kleiman's book "The Postpartum Husband" yet? It was written specifically for men whose wives/partners are going through PPD. I would definitely check it out.
about 1 year ago
Kim Rogers
great point alexis, that's another thing my husband would say "it's me and you against PPD" - like we were a team.
about 1 year ago
Kim Rogers
oh, and be encouraged that you will get your wife/partner/best friend back!! she won't resent you and be an emotional wreck forever :(
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
You're not the problem. She's not the problem. PPD is the problem. If you can really internalize that and make it your mantra, you'll make it through this.
about 1 year ago
Married2PPD
Thank you for that last comment Alexis. Even though I know in my head the things she says sometimes are not what she means to say, they can get pretty nasty and it has been a struggle not to take it to heart and feel like im the problem.
about 1 year ago
Kim Rogers
My husband kept telling me "I would still marry you" "you are a great mom" I would apologize for being defective and he would assure me that I wasn't . He also took over most of the baby duties on the weekends and every Wednesday night I went out to dinner or to a book store by myself. Those things helped me a lot. It's hard for the partners :(
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
I feel for you...it's not easy trying to support a woman with PPD. But I echo what everyone else has said, and also would like to add that what helped me most was when my husband did kind things without asking and without expecting me to notice. For example, he'd often take care of night feedings for my son so I could sleep. I know it sounds like a lot to ask for you to just do these things without any recognition or thanks, but if I'm being honest that's what made the most difference in my day. Also, really, really know that PPD can make women say things they don't mean. It's awful to feel like you can't control the words that are coming out of your mouth, but it's even more awful to think that the people you love might believe those words.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
When I was on Zoloft it knocked me out within 20 minutes of taking it. I began to take it at night right before I went to bed so I would sleep the side effect off.
about 1 year ago
Married2PPD
Yes, I have been trying to remind myself its the PPD and to not take it personally when she vents my way. Reguardless, it has generated alot of stress for both of us.
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
Hi - well, yes , suggesting that she see a doctor & a therapist are good starting points..perhaps you could both go for 2 sessions or so to help get a support plan together....it must ne stressful for you as well...
about 1 year ago
Married2PPD
Yes, I am a dad, and feeling pretty outnumbered, lol. I will look into the dad project, I was unaware of it. My wife went in to consult her OB with her concerns, and the prescribed her zoloft. We were not seeing any results as it made her very drowsy and want to sleep all day. It didnt seem to help, and she wasnt able to function very well.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
I would also refer you to http://www.daddysdown.com. (full disclosure: It's my husband's blog) He has been through hell and back with me and I know he would be more than happy to discuss his experience in depth with you. We don't hold anything back about what we went through.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Thanks for mentioning that Amber. Plus, Postpartum Support International hosts a once monthly free call just for dads to get information and support. Find out more here: http://postpartum.net/Get-Help/PSI-Chat-with-an-Expert.aspx#chats_for_men
about 1 year ago
Amber Koter
The Postpartum Dads Project may be a great starting point for you, in terms of support your wife and coping yourself: http://postpartumdadsproject.org/. Good for you for being here and seeking help to find the best way to be supportive!
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
So happy to have a dad here. Assuming you are a dad, or perhaps another mom, which is great too. Has your wife seen a doctor?
about 1 year ago
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- Erin O 2 comments
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How common is PPD?
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
VERY. While the CDC states that approx. 12% of women get PPD, we believe the numbers are much higher. After all, the CDC's numbers are based on self-reported cases, and many women never report their illness. I believe it's around 20%. And in areas where there is high poverty, it's 25%.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
1 in 8 new moms in the US develops a Postpartum Mood Disorder.
about 1 year ago
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- jen 7 comments
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I've been on zoloft for 15 days and have seen some improvement, but still feeling very, very depressed. I'm also having some side effects - would it be best to stay on the same dosage (100mg) or increase or switch already? I really thought I'd be feeling much better by now.
about 1 year ago
michelle
way to early to make a change...
about 1 year ago
Mel
It took about 6 weeks for me to see any significant improvement the first time I started taking anti-depressants (and it was zoloft). Hang in there!
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
Hi Jen - It takes a while for those medications to work on our brain chemistry! Hang in there!
about 1 year ago
jen
I am also seeing a therapist but only once per wk (50 min.) I may try a support group too, but just haven't felt like I can handle it yet. I was having severe and frequent panic attacks and those have lessened, but have not gone away like I thought they would after 2wks of the zoloft.
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
I agree with Katherine. It took a few weeks for Zoloft to kick in for me and the same goes with Celexa (I took that the second time I had PPD). A support group or therapist in addition to the meds will greatly increase your recovery time.
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
My latest round of antidepressants didn't kick in until three weeks after I started them. My doctor told me to wait AT LEAST a month before adjusting my medication.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Fifteen days is a VERY short period of time Jen. First, many docs will start patients off on a lower dose and bring them up to the most effective dose. Second, not every medication works for every person. I would talk to your doctor about whatever continued symptoms you have. It may be that this med doesn't work for you or that the dose is not right. Also, you might consider therapy and/or a local support group.
about 1 year ago
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- Katherine Stone 22 comments
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What are some of the symptoms you had when you suffered PPD or anxiety? It's important to see that these illnesses are not one-size-fits-all.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Oh, and the worry that every time my husband left something horrible would happen and he'd never come back. And the lack of focus - I actually drove through stop signs more than once.
about 1 year ago
michelle
Constant worry, sweating, tears, racing heart, loss of appetite, nausea, no energy or motivation, and inability to feel able to just sit down.
about 1 year ago
Diana
Lauren-hale, I am paranoid too. I always close all the windows when the baby is crying. I think the neighbors will call Social services and report me for something. I don't know what but it freaks me out. I know I am a great mom but I always worry about what everyone else thinks.
about 1 year ago
Valerie
Heart racing was the biggest thing. Followed by short fuse.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Oh, I forgot to mention the paranoia that everyone that could see me (regardless of where they were actually looking) knew that I was a horrible mother. They all judged me. I closed the blinds in our home and refused to leave the house. I would peek out the blinds to make sure no one was outside or across the street to go get the mail. (This was after my first - the paranoia did not return as a symptom with my second)
about 1 year ago
Deborah
The anxiety was overwhelming. I wouldn't shower because I couldn't leave the baby. Worried to an extreme. Had a constant fear that my husband would drop the baby coming down the stairs (he never did).
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
I didn't cry as much. My problems were not being able to eat, not being able to go back to sleep after I got up with the baby, and having intrusive (scary) thoughts about harming my child. Also, I felt like I was an awful mother who would never be any good at it, and that my baby would never love me.
about 1 year ago
Nicole
Not sleeping! I know that with a newborn, sleep is almost non-existent, but I didn't sleep at all! I had this terrible rage and resentment towards my husband and even the baby. I had horrible thoughts that would scare me. I couldn't leave the house and when I did, I felt as though I was being watched. Depressed, lifeless, I felt as though everything I was doing was wrong. Couldn't get into the back to school routine with my older child, I had no interest in him. No interest in sex. It was as if I was just going through the day to day tasks with no emotions or feelings.
about 1 year ago
Amber Koter
My personal symptoms included hopelessness, anger, detachment, intense anxiety, inability to be alone, insomnia, and complete disdain for motherhood. I felt incredible guilt and shame and experienced my childbirth as traumatic and because it wasn't as expected as my own failure. Later, I became obsessed with everything around my son's eating and sleeping. The depression and anxiety took a while, as well as did bonding with my son. The longest lasting symptoms for me were the obsessions. Being completely "me" and normal took a long time, but was SO worth it! The interesting thing for me (and I hear for many moms) is that the first 80% of recovery is fairly quick once effective treatment is begun. The last 20% can take some patience...don't lose hope and keep working towards it. As Kimberly of "Make Mommy Go Something..." says, "It will blow your socks off" to be a well mama!
about 1 year ago
melinda
@ Victoria....my kids are so angry that I can not remember ANYTHING! They will say "Mom this is the 5th time I have told you" and my husband has nothing left to give me. He has been dealing with the brunt of this for over a year and is emotionally exhausted. But this "foggy" brain ....I just can't take this much longer!
about 1 year ago
Mel
Like I was a shell of my former self. And I was paralyzed with worry and anxiety, and even the simplest tasks (making a bottle, getting dressed, wiping off a counter, etc.) felt like marathon running: impossible and exceedingly difficult.
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
@karenebayne I had that too the second time around- I was obsessed with SIDS. @melinda the foggy brain thing both times as well. It made me so frustrated and was equally frustrating for my spouse.
about 1 year ago
Diana
I have no energy by 3pm. I cry at the drop of a pin. I usually cry between 5-9pm. Sometimes it is nightly and other times it is every 3 days or so. But once I finish crying I feel great. Could this be a nervous breakdown?
about 1 year ago
Karen Bayne
Thanks for saying anxiety. That really was the overwhelming symptom I experienced. I was constantly afraid of the baby dying - of the baby dying if I left him for a moment, an hour, if I took a shower, etc, etc. It consumed me for months.
about 1 year ago
melinda
Did anyone else have this "foggy" brain thing and being very forgetful? I am about going CRAZY just from these 2 things!
about 1 year ago
Janna
i had and still do at times, real bad derealization... My psych says it is a defense mechanism... that scares me sometimes and she said to not pay it any attention... One thing I hate about anxiety is loss of confidence in yourself,, I always doubt myself,, I used to be confident and strong and now I am more vulnerable... I am much stronger than 8 months ago but still weak... SHEER FEAR of everything..
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
Aside from the immense sadness and crying I felt really restless. Unsatisfied and highly irritable. With my first child I got really violent feeling towards people I didn't even know. I wanted to ram people with my car or would yell at perfect strangers. I am not like that at all normally and this side of me was so bizarre. Insomnia too. The second time around I had panic attacks and felt hopeless. My brain wouldn't settle. I couldn't calm myself down for anything.
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
Just very very depressed crying, exhausted, feeling worthless, useless, stupid, incompetent, like a BAD mother, what else??? Goodness, just like a NOBODY!! And you know I WAS a SOMEBODY! I was/am SOMEBODY'S MOTHER! i
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
That's such a good point. For me: huge mood swings, meaning euphoric happiness one moment, then blinding rage the next. Also, inability to focus, loss of sex drive, apathy, emotional overeating, hopelessness, greatly exaggerated periods of introspection (to the point of not living my actual life, but only dealing with things that were going on in my head), heightened sensitivity to criticism, crying jags that would last hours, intense fatigue that would prevent me from moving sometimes.
about 1 year ago
Amber Koter
Amen! While my symptoms began literally at childbirth, I have a college girlfriend whose first pregnancy and postpartum were blissful. After her second child, she felt great again...until 6 months postpartum when she began to experience symptoms of PPOCD and eventually intense depression and anxiety. Everything from onset to symptoms and certainly treatment options are unique to the woman.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
I struggled with Postpartum OCD, something not many women are familiar with. I had intrusive thoughts and would compulsively brush my hair, clean, frantically cook, etc, when these thoughts would race through my head. I rarely cried. My pulse was always rapid, blood pressure was high, racing thoughts, over-anxiety about What if's.., panic attacks, a lot of symptoms not normally associated with "Depression" which is why it's so important to acknowledge the different variations! Good question!
about 1 year ago
melinda
Tired, withdrawn, agitated, cloudy feeling in my brain, can't stay on task long, very forgetful, anxiety, do not want to be around people, emotional highs and lows, etc.
about 1 year ago
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- kia 11 comments
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Hi all. Just joining in. I currently have a spouse suffering from PPD and he is seeing a therapist about it.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
That's a tough realization to come to - in marriage, you're supposed to be able to depend on each other so when you can't it's hard and you feel totally lost. I got angry when I had to be the one, even while sick, trying to hold the family together when I just didn't have it in me to do so. It's been a long road back but definitely worth it.
about 1 year ago
kia
It got "ugly" a few weeks ago. We were surrounded by wildfires for a couple of weeks and our air quality was horrible. I had to essentially be in lockdown in the house with the baby so we wouldn't be surrounded by smoke and was getting a little depressed about it after a few days. My husband seriously overreacted and jumped on my case to get my shit together and in his freakout it was obvious something was going on with him. He sought medical help that week as a result. And sadly I realized that if I needed help (e.g. if I developed PPD) I would have to turn to someone besides him.
about 1 year ago
michelle
My hubbie has been dealing with my PPD for a year and a half with our second child. He also dealt with it with our first for about a year. He says he is just so scared that his wife will never come back. this makes me so emotional and scared. He recently asked me to go to marital counselling so that we can get some guidance.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Kia - It's okay for you to not be okay too. My husband struggled with being the rock for me which led to his own depressive episode. Parental depression in either parent rocks the whole family. When we were both depressed it was very ugly here at home. Beyond ugly, actually. But we eventually gave each other space in which to be broken and then space in which to heal and we have come so very far. It is OKAY for you to break down too. No one can hold it together 100% of the time!
about 1 year ago
Diana
Kia, I know it does suck! I suspect my husband may be getting PPD. He has been very agitated the last month or so. It is making my PPD worse as he is my only support besides my therapist and several of my angel friends.
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
My husband says this to me sometimes, Kia. He'll tell me that sometimes he just wants to freak out and have a bad day, but he worries that I can't handle it. So he represses a lot of emotion. I've learned to ask him how he's feeling and encourage him to talk about everything on days when I'm feeling well enough to handle the negativity he might be feeling. And if it starts to get too difficult for me to digest, I ask him to stop. For now, that's working for us.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Hi Kia. I'm sorry to hear that your family is going through this. Glad you joined us.
about 1 year ago
kia
I am handling it well. I try not to dismiss it since he is a man but I have to admit it sucks. There are days I want the latitude to be off-balanced emotionally and I simply do not have the freedom to do that because of his current state. Our son is 3 1/2 months old and I feel like I have to keep my shit together even when I am not in the mood to do so.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
How are you handling his depression?
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
Hi Kia!
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Hi kia! I'm so glad you are here and are bringing up a Dad struggling with Postpartum. My husband struggled with it right along with me. It's so hard for a Dad to cope with depression after the birth of a child. Good for your husband seeking help!
about 1 year ago
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- Janna 12 comments
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What does everyone think about natural hormone therapy? I am on natural progesterone tablets and armour thyroid in edition to my antidepressants
about 1 year ago
michelle
I am also interested in knowing more about this. I am going to see an endocrinologist to have my hormone levels checked and maybe be put on the birth control or a estrogen or progesterone cream. I'm really hoping this helps with the PMS because evry month before my period it feels like I'm relapsing...
about 1 year ago
Janna
@Michelle--- I was the same way no LIE--- I was great and then my period would hit and I would fall back... The progesterone cream and thyroid with omega threes and vitamin d has worked wonders..........
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
I just wrote a post about relapse during menstruation at Postpartum Progress, and you might find the comments helpful: http://www.postpartumprogress.com/weblog/2010/09/relapsing-on-the-road-to-recovery-from-postpartum-depression.html
about 1 year ago
michelle
I have just made an appointment with an endocrinologist, my family doc suggested it. She seems to think I ahve some hormonal issues because my PMS feels like I'm having a relapse every month. It's so frustrating. I'm hoping there is some sort of treatment like the birth control or natural estrogen/ progesterone creams????
about 1 year ago
Janna
yes I went to a specialist in bioidentical hormones..My psychiatrists requested my labs as well to make sure.
about 1 year ago
Dr. Shosh
If you're going to use natural (bioidentical) hormones, get tested by someone who knows what he/she is doing, so you can receive a dosage that is individually determined. Doctors don't have any baseline levels on us, so just guessing which hormones and how much to use without being tested may or may not work. Sometimes we need specific nutrients -minerals and amino acids, for instance - that can be assessed too.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
I'd like to hear Dr. Shoh's input on this.
about 1 year ago
Diana
Yes, I have Natural Woman progesterone cream and will be starting it soon. It is supposed to be safe for breast feeding moms. I found this out through the book non-pharmeceutical treatments for depression. I hope it works for me!
about 1 year ago
Janna
It helped me tremendously being on the natural progesterone and the thyroid meds... Plus Vitamin D is very very important... My psychiatrist recommened the natural hormone supplements to help me ..
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
There is a book published backed by research about non-pharmacologic tx for depression by Kendall-Tackett. But it does not cover bioidenticals
about 1 year ago
Valerie
I'm getting ready to try bioidentical hormone replacement therapy for PCOS and I'm secretly crossing my fingers that it helps with my depression as well...
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
Some docs are informed about the interactions of non-phzrmalogical supplements and others aren't, ask your doc if thse interfere with the anitdepressant's action...s/he may or may not know
about 1 year ago
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- Katherine Stone 7 comments
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Nicole brings up a great point about breastfeeding. A lot of women are afraid to reach out for treatment for PPD because they want to continue breastfeeding. Many don't realize it's possible to be treated and continue to BF.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
I think a key to BFing is to keep going it if helps you, or stop if it hurts. In my case, I had to stop because it only made me more anxious than I already was. It's okay to stop. It's also okay to keep going and find a compatible treatment, as there are treatments you can take and continue to BF.
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
Kathleen Kendall-Tackett's work addresses BF'ing through PPD
about 1 year ago
Karen Bayne
Thank you - bookmarking, bookmarking. I need to expand my childbirth education teaching section on postpartum depression. The standard stuff is not enough - at least, I believe - now that I see how high the numbers are. Must somehow make time to do more with this topic.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
There are GREAT resources. First, you can find good information from Massachusetts General Hospital/Harvard here: http://www.womensmentalhealth.org/specialty-clinics/breastfeeding-and-psychiatric-medication/ Also, you can check out Motherrisk's section on breastfeeding and drugs (this includes info on more than just psychiatric drugs): http://www.motherisk.org/women/breastfeeding.jsp
about 1 year ago
Karen Bayne
Yes, I'd love to know about more ways to get the word out about safe medications. What resources are available to share (I'm a childbirth educator).
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
I took 20 mg of Celexa with my second baby and still breast-fed. I'm doing the same thing with the third.
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
Yes, I continued to breastfeed while on a low dose of antidepressant. However, I eventually realized that I needed a stronger dose of a different medication, so I weaned my son at six months. It was the right choice for me. But like you said, many women don't know that there are many options for treatment alongside breastfeeding.
about 1 year ago
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- Victoria Mason 5 comments
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Has anyone encapsulated their placenta to combat PPD? I tried to do that this third birth but my hospital would not allow me to take my placenta home with me for encapsulation.
about 1 year ago
kia
I did a home birth and paid the 2nd midwife to encapsulate my placenta. She dried it and encapsulated it then sent her husband to bring it to me about 3 days after the birth but he delivered it to the wrong house. We have no idea where it ended up. So we went through with it but something very rare happened and it got lost.
about 1 year ago
Dr. Shosh
This has become quite popular and whole societies have postpartum women eating their placentas (even placenta soup). As of now, we don't have any research supporting the effectiveness of this practice, but there's no harm in it either, and who knows - it might work putting our hormones back into our body in this way. As long as an activity won't hurt, I think the woman should be allowed to do whatever she'd like to try and stay well.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
There are no human-based studies regarding placental encapsulation and preventing PPD. I agree that with the growth of interest in this course of treatment, it certainly warrants research. The primary concern at this time is that all the nutrients in the raw placenta may not be retained once the placenta is dried and encapsulated. It may have the same effect as simply taking iron pills. But again, I do not know because there simply isn't research out there regarding this course of treatment.
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
I have a friend who just did this after her second baby. She suffered PPD with her first child and so far so good she says. It is hard to say though how well it works.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Massachusetts General Hospital's Center for Women's Mental Health did a recent story saying there is no proof that the placenta works for preventing PPD. I think they need more research in this area. In the meantime, many states don't allow it, though I did see recently that a woman in Illinois (I think) successfully sued to be able to do it.
about 1 year ago
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- Dr. Shosh 7 comments
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Katherine is very right in that there's no "one-size-fits-all," either for symptoms or for treatment. "Mood swings" for one woman may be mild and normal Baby Blues but for another it may be bipolar disorder. Along with these fabulous supportive chats, it's important for each woman to receive an assessment (sometimes you can find a quick self-assessment like the Edinburgh or those found in Postpartum Depression For Dummies) to make sure you're getting appropriate help for your individual situation.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
There are so many different things that can lead a mother to depression or anxiety. Women who adopt can suffer from post-adoption depression. Women who suffer miscarriage or other loss will suffer grief and depression. Moms in your situation can go through depression and anxiety. We all need to talk to each other and support each other, no matter what brings us to these illnesses. Glad you are here!
about 1 year ago
Holly
Hello! I'm thrilled to have come across this today. It's amazing to see the support to let moms know they are not alone. While I only had baby blues that subsided quickly, I suffered "post-diagnosis depression" after my son was diagnosed with autism. It was really hard to admit that I was so depressed, but such a relief once I got help. I was treated with meds and saw a therapist briefly. I still see this as one of my strongest moments, not my weakest.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Hi Holly!
about 1 year ago
Holly
I've been working with a health system in Southern NJ for many years and I'm happy to say they have always been keenly active in creating PPD awareness, providing services to ensure women are being screened within a few days of delivery, and educating both ob/gyns and pediatricians to identify the signs before and after delivery. The Edinburgh assessment is available here, as well as a phone number for depression support http://www.virtua.org/health/depression-and-pregnancy/overview.aspx. These are invaluable resources and I can't share them enough. I will never forget, a few years ago, a father called the support line because he was very concerned about his wife as she admitted to having thoughts of harming herself and her child. She was immediately referred to the ER and admitted into our inpatient mental health unit. It was a true case of postpartum psychosis in a mother who was saved because these services were in place. Awareness and services are absolutely vital.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Some women don't realize they had bipolar disorder until the symptoms become very obvious in the postpartum period. Not saying this is you, of course. For example, I never realized I've always had moderate OCD until I had severe postpartum OCD.
about 1 year ago
Diana
Dr. Shosh, Thanks for your comment.... Wow, I didn't realize bipolar disorder could be a possibilty. Does this mean I could have bipolar disorder for the rest of my life?
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Yes! Talk to a doctor!
about 1 year ago
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- Katherine 8 comments
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If you have had ppd with one child what is the likelihood it would occur with subsequent children? Is there any way to predict it?
about 1 year ago
michelle
I am not a medical professional at all, but I did get it with both. It was worse with the second, however I have a friend who had it with her first and not with her second. It is not something anyone can predict but rather just have an awareness of so you are completely prepared.
about 1 year ago
Dr. Shosh
You are high risk for having another PPD once you've had one, but there's SO much you can do to help prevent it! You need a workable, practical plan including a few key pieces (and each woman's plan should be individual) including therapy, specific nutrients, exercise, emotional support and physical support. There are alternative methods of treatment that can also be used to help prevent another occurrence, such as acupuncture, massage, blocking blue light therapy (http://lowbluelights.com), and so on. Remember that it's all individual, but there's lots of hope. I've been doing this work for 24 years and have seen very high risk women having great experiences postpartum when they have a plan for wellness!
about 1 year ago
Katherine
thanks so much! not pregnant yet but trying.....
about 1 year ago
Amber Koter
Here is a link to the written version- http://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Having-After-Postpartum-Depression/dp/1413473474/ref=sr_1_2?s=gateway&ie=UTF8&qid=1285781951&sr=8-2 sorry, the former is an audio version.
about 1 year ago
Amber Koter
As Lauren mentioned in a previous comment, Karen's book: http://www.amazon.com/What-Am-Thinking-Postpartum-Depression/dp/B001SSV1IS/ref=sr_1_10?s=gateway&ie=UTF8&qid=1285781869&sr=8-10 is a great resource regarding having a baby after an experience with PPD.
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
Very true and good advice. Since I suffered from it more than once and began to show symptoms right before the birth of my third my midwife and I put a plan in place so that I could combat it right away. About 30 min. after I delivered this third baby I got my first dose of Celexa. I also made sure I asked for help this time from my friends and family. If they offered, I took it rather than thinking I could handle it all. It has really helped.
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
Not sure of statistics on this, but my doctor did say there's a greater likelihood you'll have PPD if you've been diagnosed with clinical depression before pregnancy, or if you've had PPD with prior pregnancies. I had it with both, although I do know women who had it with their first and not with any subsequent children.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
You can have it with your first or your fifth. You can have it with none, some or all. Research does show that you have an increased risk of getting it again if you've had it once, but that's not a guarantee. The best thing to do would be to work with a psychiatrist or other perinatal mental health specialist to create a plan and look out for you.
about 1 year ago
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- kia 9 comments
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My husband wanted me to ask if any of you had any insight into the cause(s) of PPD, PPA, or PPP?
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
I wish we had more resources to offer for men with PPD. I think more and more will be developed in the near future.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Kia - It's awesome he is seeking help. All too often men don't get the help they need because it's not the "masculine" thing to do and there's a fear of being labeled for it. So kudos to him. (and to you for not dismissing it!)
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
Yet another way the US does not cafe for families
about 1 year ago
kia
Thanks for the link. He has been very open with it once he realized he had it. He has even been open with people that he is seeing a therapist for it. He has told his male friends and some don't believe him even though they know he is openly emotional
about 1 year ago
Deborah
Oh Victoria....that's awful. Boy, we (society and specific individuals)sure are hard on moms. (((hugs)))
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
Job stress was a big one for me with baby #1. I went back to work 8 weeks after she was born and was put on call 24/7. So much was expected of me that wasn't before and I was repeatedly told my maternity leave was "a vacation". I had no place to pump- they offered an office with an all glass wall and I was constantly called at home and on weekends to come back to work. That hadn't happened EVER in all the years I was there before. It made me hostile to say the least. When I mentioned having PPD to my boss he actually told others in the office that I was "unfit, crazy and should be reported". My PPD didn't kick in until I went back to work, imagine that.
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
yes it is multifactorail, as they say - "biopsychosocial" Some risk factors: a personal history of a depression in her lifetime, a history of mood disorders in her family, experiencing a traumatic birth, such as a protracted labor involving multiple medical interventions, the infant is born with a disability, the infant is born premature, feelings around a previous personal choice to terminate a pregnancy, the current home is not a safe home, unresolved issues from childhood regarding parenting and being parented, a history of sexual abuse or sexual assault..so there are alot of factors, but every person is different and has different resiliences and strengths as well..
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
For men? I would suggest he go to http://www.saddaddy.com which is Dr. Courtenay's site for men with Paternal Postnatal Depression.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
There is a lot of research into the cause, but it hasn't been pinpointed to one thing. There are many risk factors, including a previous history of mental illness or having family with a history of mental illness. Others include such things a lack of social support, financial pressures, major life changes (move, job loss, death), previous abuse or trauma. You can be at a higher risk also if you have diabetes, had infertility treatments, delivered multiples. The list goes on and on.
about 1 year ago
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- Married2PPD 3 comments
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Thank you ladies for the advice and the links to resources directed toword dads. I really appreciate the help. There is alot of good information here.
about 1 year ago
Married2PPD
Good to know. I will look into the project today. Thanks again
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
I want to chime in and let you know that I run the Postpartum Dads Project as well. I'm working toward being more active with it at this time. I applaud you for coming today and wanting to help your wife as she fights through this. She may not be saying thank you now but one day she will. It took me a long time to be able to see all my husband sacrificed and did for me when I was down for the count.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
We care about you and your wife!
about 1 year ago
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- Joy 3 comments
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Thanks so much for all the help... Unfortunately, my toddler just woke up, so I'll be back to read more later. Hugs!
about 1 year ago
Nicole
((hugs))
about 1 year ago
Emily
Hugs, hugs, hugs, Joy
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
((hugs)) so glad you made it to the live chat! Definitely read more later and comment as well!
about 1 year ago
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- Nicole 6 comments
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So when do the tears and crying spells end? My son asked me a few moments ago, "mommy, ok? You k?" That just made the tears come down faster!! I am not a crier, I don't like to cry and its all I do all day long!
about 1 year ago
Nicole
I am on a few different medications including an anxiety, anti-depressant, mood and not really sure what the other one is actually for, but I am on that one too...I feel like I have my own little pharmacy going on! I don't have any kind of regular cycle as I also have PCOS...gggrrr I think somewhere along my life, I must have asked to be "normal" too many times, so I keep getting hit with one wall after another! I cry when I feel as though I have exposed myself (which I know is my choice to share my story and I don't regret that I did), its just feels as though I am admitting my secrets with what I have gone through. It is hard to admit that you had thoughts of hurting yourself or your child, and that this is the moment in my life I feel as though I should be happiest. I have been blessed with healthy children, and I tell that to myself every day. My husband doesn't always "get" what I am going through, but he doesn't tell me to get over it anymore either!
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
Oh dear, do NOT do what I did! I did not seek help as I was ashamed and afraid (this was 16 years ago and these forums did not exist). I was afraid of taking antidepressants, which I think was an informed fear. I went to a homeopath when my son was two, she gave me a remedy and my depression lifted. But my choice was not such a good one, I could've gotten more education but was afraid. So, one's depression can last a long time. I do not recommend anyone do what I did.
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
I agree with Alexis - my tears and crying ended when my meds fully began working. Just remember that you are at a very emotional time right now. You will still have these moments despite seeking treatment. It takes time. I used to have to tell my spouse- it isn't a light switch! I doesn't just "Poof!" go away because I took a pill or went to therapy. It takes time and everyone is different.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
It's important to know that there is no exact timeline for recovery. The length of time it takes to get better depends on so many things: the severity of your illness, how much support you have, how long you had the illness before you reached out for help, how effective the treatment is that you are taking. Make sure not to compare your recovery to anyone else's (not that you are). Instead, keep communicating with your doctor about your symptoms so he or she can see if the plan you have is working or if changes need to be made. ALSO, know that your cycle can affect your recovery. So if you are around PMS time, even if you've been getting better, the symptoms may get worse again.
about 1 year ago
Mel
Everyone is different. The way I see it, it's OK for your child to grow up understanding that you get sad, are fallible too. Allow yourself to not be mad at/disappointed in yourself for the crying (or whatever symptom), and reassure your child that you simply aren't feeling well and it's nothing he's done wrong and not to worry, that you love him and are there to take care of him. I found that a high-level/child-appropriate explanation to my occasional tears was more reassuring to my daughter than me trying to stop crying or hide in the bathroom while doing it, etc. As for when does it stop? I can't tell you that -- I'm sure you're working with a doc, right? I CAN tell you tho, that it WILL stop. And you WILL get through this. And maybe someday you can be an excellent support to another mom going through it, because you fully understand their challenges. ((hugs))
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
I stopped having the crying spells about a month after I started the (correct) medication. I'll still tear up about stuff sometimes, but I'm able to stop the tears. Before, once I started crying, it could last for hours.
about 1 year ago
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- michelle 4 comments
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Hi everyone! This is my first time using this site. I was just wondering if there are any other women out there who are around 18 months postpartum?
about 1 year ago
Kim Rogers
oh do I remember those days!! I would kind of freak out every month and think "oh no, maybe I"m NOT getting better!" But I was.... my therapist even had me mark the calendar 10 days before my period would start and let my husband know and be mindful of how it affects me during that window. It lasted for 5 months or so after I was off of my meds just around my menstrual cycle!
about 1 year ago
michelle
Hi ladies! I am getting better, however I am having alot of difficulty with my menstral cycles. Every month feels like I am relapsing over and over again. That is what is most frustrating for me right now. I am going to see an endocrinologist in a couple of weeks. Maybe need to be put on the birth control or estrogen/progesterone creams??? But i am currently taking effexor and cipralex and clonazopam when i need it.
about 1 year ago
Kim Rogers
I'm 21 months postpartum, diagnosed at 10 months postpartum
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
Hey Michelle! I'm 17 months postpartum right now, with my second child. How are you feeling?
about 1 year ago
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- jen 9 comments
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While waiting for it to get better (while taking zoloft and seeing a therapist) what can I do to feel better in the meaintime? I have horrible mornings, but feel better in the evenings. My doctor took my out of work and my kids are at school/daycare during the day, so I am devasted most the day. Should I force myself to shower, eat, and stay busy or should I sleep (sometimes I feel like that's avoidance)
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
OK, good. Glad being at home helped.
about 1 year ago
jen
work was actually what we 'believe' triggered my PPD/A so I've gotten better after being off work in some regard, and worse in others (worried about work, home alone). Thank you for the great suggestions - I'm writing them down!
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
It might be a good idea to ask your therapist to help you develop a practical daily plan with a balance of rest and exercise and self-care (showering, maybe a massage). Behavior modification is also a cornerstone of therapy - act as if you are feeling better and it will contribute to the overall health plan....
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
The second and third baby I did find going back to work helped. In fact, I took a new job right after baby number two because I knew I needed out of the house more. I also took myself off maternity leave early this time around because I felt really ready to head back to work. Feeling productive outside the house helps my mood immensely.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Hmmm. Did you find that being at work helped? For me (and I'm only talking about me here), it helped me to go back to work. Because of my anxiety I just couldn't handle being at home all day with my little monkey. I found that being at work helped, even though I can't say I was highly productive because I was still sick. Just curious whether being at home has made it worse, or if that had no impact.
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
I forced myself to eat, shower and exercise. I did take naps because that is supposed to help fight PPD but I didn't do it often because I felt the same as you. I also found that simply being out and around my friends without my husband or baby helped a lot. It gave me a break and kept my mind busy. I scheduled "friend/me time" like an appt. It was my therapists idea and she made sure my husband knew it was part of my treatment.
about 1 year ago
Amber Koter
For many women, being isolated can exacerbate symptoms. If you are traditionally someone who is active and social, then perhaps considering getting out and about might improve your mood and help the days (while you are "waiting") to pass more quickly and easily. For me, while I was exhausted from being depressed and anxious and the insomnia, I knew that I had to get out. Even now, I realize that getting out of the house at least once per day is imperative to my mental health. On the other hand, if nurturing yourself and being alone feels good, then give yourself permission to take a bubble bath, read a magazine and spend the day in your robe. Do what feels best for you!
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Start slow. Go for a walk down your driveway or your road for just 5 minutes for a week. Then go out for coffee. Work your way up to running errands, etc. Add just one new thing each week. You can also ask your therapist to help you put together a wellness plan of things you can do at home to help with recovery.
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
When I was waiting for my meds to kick in, I tried to make it a point to accomplish at least one thing every hour. So I'd brush my teeth, or write an email, or make breakfast, but I wouldn't try to do all those things at once, because I found it just set me up for failure. Take things by baby steps. And when you are able to do those little things, you'll see that you're going to be OK.
about 1 year ago
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- Amber Koter 3 comments
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Remembering to care for yourself (which is not a selfish act, as well mama=well baby and family) is very important. Considering what activities and types of support would benefit you and then seeking that out is sometimes overwhelming when sad and fatigued but worth the effort. Exercise, time alone, getting outdoors, taking vitamins and supplements that will improve your health and have shown mental health benefits (such as B and D vitamins and omega-3s), etc. can make a huge difference. Of course, these efforts are many times just supplements to the treatment plan your doctor will offer (which may or may not include medications, therapy, etc.).
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
Time alone was one of the best things for me, even though I was scared of being alone at a certain point. I needed to get out of "mom mode" and be an adult for a little while.
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
yes great points, self-care is an important leg of the medication-therapy-self-care triangle
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Amen. Whatever you can do that makes YOU feel better is a good thing. Don't worry about what makes other people feel better - do what you like. Some like exercise, or being outdoors, or taking a shower, or listening to music, or lighting a candle. Whatever.
about 1 year ago
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- Katherine Stone 0 comments
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Whew. This talking is going by so fast! Make sure to bring up any topics or questions that you have!
about 1 year ago
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- Katherine 5 comments
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Although my son is 16 months old I still find myself with a lot of anxiety....it is not debilitating, but it is always under the surface whenever we go anywhere or my husband is out of town. I am no longer on the antidepressants I was on during my major PPD episode....I am taking an antidepressant and an anti anxiety medication, but is it normal for there to be underlying anxiety even with medication?
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Many people have both depression and anxiety postpartum, so it's not abnormal to be experiencing anxiety. The question is whether the medication is adding to it, or whether your treatment plan just isn't helping it.
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
In addition to what Lauren said, anxiety is an unwanted side effect of some antidepressants, so talking to your doctor about that specific symptom is important. I always experience an increase in anxiety when my husband is traveling, too.
about 1 year ago
Dr. Shosh
You deserve to be happy. Don't settle for the underlying anxiety. Hopefully you're also receiving therapy for anxiety. There are also other energy psychology techniques like EFT or EMDR that work well for anxiety.
about 1 year ago
Kim Rogers
I had ativan on hand even after my meds ended with my son, eventually for me the anxiety wasn't always there, just on more challenging days, then it wasn't there at all. It took many months for it to be completely gone, and came out especially during my period.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Some of us are more prone to anxiety than others. You may want to talk with your doctor about adding a B vitamin or Omega 3.6.9 supplements to your care plan. Both have helped me with anxiety in the past.
about 1 year ago
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- Janna 2 comments
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Any moms who suffered from PPD/A have derealization--where things appear to be fake? and also did you feel your anxiety was heightened during or right after your period?
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
I seem to be relapsing every month around the same time, and I finally came to the realization this past month that it's most likely due to PMS.
about 1 year ago
Amber Koter
Yes, regarding menstrual cycle. I had an IUD after my son was born and because I didn't actually "get" a period I would wonder why I was feeling down or anxious, even 2 years postpartum and well past PPD...and then I would realize I had ovulated a couple of weeks prior. After a few months I put two and two together.
about 1 year ago
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- Sue 3 comments
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I'm 21 months postpartum. Is it common for someone to be dealing with PPD/A for this long?
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
As Lauren talked about, you can be technically healed from PPD or PPA but still suffer a sort of post-traumatic stress disorder where you are always looking over your shoulder and afraid it's coming back. People don't quite comprehend how traumatizing it can be to have a perinatal mood disorder. It takes a while to get over it. Another reason you may still be suffering is if your treatment hasn't been effective. I got treatment early for PPOCD, but it didn't really work that well. At a year postpartum I switched to a specialist, changed my treatment, and got much better. So it's good to take a look at how effective your treatment has been, and whether a change may be necessary. Also, I want to point out that some people who have PPD who never get treated can actually develop chronic major depression. This is why it's so important to get help.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
It depends on when you were diagnosed, started successful therapy (medicinal or other), continued life stressors, etc. It can take up to a full two years or more to heal completely. PPD/A is trauma to your mind. Mental Trauma takes time to heal just as physical trauma. It's harder to wait it out because there's the belief that we should be able to just think it away. But, we can't. Or we would all be healed in a matter of hours.
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
Not sure about common, but it does happen--I'm 17 months postpartum and still dealing with PPD, and I had it for 18 months after my first (I got pregnant with my second right around that time).
about 1 year ago
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- Katherine Stone 3 comments
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Another important topic is the setbacks. I hear from lots of moms who are humming along great in their recovery and then have the symptoms come back and worry that all is lost. This is a normal part of getting better. You will have ups and downs. Don't give up or quit your treatment.
about 1 year ago
Victoria Mason
This is so true! I hate the setbacks but they do happen. It really is important to realize that it happens with many types of depression and that it too shall pass.
about 1 year ago
Amber Koter
And try to take a setback for what it is...temporary. Thinking that it is a permanent change or a sign that you are going the whole way back to square one will only paralyze and panic you. Know that we all have bad days. Sometimes after recovering from PPD we are just more sensitive to our emotional state. Awareness of our mood is a good thing...just being sure to give it a couple of days before you worry too much can be helpful. Most times it will pass...and if it doesn't just reach back out for help- you know you'll get better because you've done it before!
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
So true! The setbacks are a part of the journey towards mental health, and even though they are frustrating and heartbreaking, they are temporary and will decrease in severity over time. Don't give up, no matter what you do!
about 1 year ago
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- Kathy Morelli 6 comments
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Thank you everyone for this interesting and supportive chat...
I really loved talking with ALL of you! Have to run to get my son and then to my office!
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Thanks for being here Kathy!
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
really great support..having a hard time leaving!! see you!
about 1 year ago
Cooper
This was an amazing Talk. Thank you all so much. You have created something incredibly important here in terms of a real-time resource. And it will live on. We will do a summary of the Talk and post it soon. THANK YOU!
about 1 year ago
Kathy Morelli
thank you ladies! you are all so inspiring! Love your work!
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
Thanks for all your comments, Kathy!
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Glad you were able to make it. Enjoyed chatting with you today as well. Thanks for participating and take care.
about 1 year ago
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- kia 1 comment
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Thanks for your thoughts/advice. I have also been considering giving him Vit D in addition to his multi-vitamin and Omega-3 supplement that he already rarely takes.
This has seriously been a helpful discussion for me to read.
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Low Vit D levels can cause depressive symptoms and fatigue. I'd talk with a doctor and see if it would be helpful to add. Of course, he could go out in the sun for 15-20 minutes a day. You could also look into getting a sun lamp for him to sit in front of on a daily basis as well. (although I know Vit D pills are much cheaper than a sun lamp!)
about 1 year ago
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- Dr. Shosh 2 comments
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Thank you all so much for allowing me to participate! If anybody would like to reach me directly, here's my email: DrShosh@DrShosh.com. I have a client calling now, so I need to go. Here's to great mommy health!!
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Thanks for bringing your expertise Dr. Shosh. She has two books you should check out: Pregnant on Prozac Postpartum Depression for Dummies
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
I am so glad you were here today. Thank you for joining us!
about 1 year ago
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- ThisFullHouse 0 comments
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Take good care of yourselves, everyone!!!
about 1 year ago
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- Emily 4 comments
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Thank you all so much for being here, for all the love, support, wisdom and care for each other. To our wonderful hosts and every single person here, I am sending you great big hugs and love.
Feel free to stay and chat as long as you like.
about 1 year ago
Emily
I am so blown away by the great big beautiful generous hearts of every one of you!!!!!!
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Thank you for this wonderful platform ladies!
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
Thank you both, Emily & Cooper for hosting this awesome chat here at The Motherhood!
about 1 year ago
Cooper
Thank you, everyone!
about 1 year ago
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- Alexis Lesa 1 comment
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I'd also like to invite anyone who needs anything to email me! alexistlesa@gmail.com
about 1 year ago
Alexis Lesa
Oh yeah and I'm on Twitter @alexistlesa
about 1 year ago
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- Amber Koter 3 comments
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Thanks, Katherine for inviting me to participate in this awesome talk!
Mamas: please do reach out to one (or all) of us for support! Knowing you are not alone and having someone to walk the journey with you can make a big difference in your wellness. We really are here for you.
about 1 year ago
Cooper
This just makes me so emotional seeing the deep kindness, support and caring that you all gave each other and contiinue to give each other in this Talk. THANK YOU.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Yes. You can find many of us at our blogs or on Twitter. I'm on Twitter at @postpartumprogr or at my blog at www.postpartumprogress.com or at Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/pages/Postpartum-Progress/140443741228 You can also email me at stonecallis@gmail.com
about 1 year ago
Amber Koter
my email is atlantamom930@gmail.com
about 1 year ago
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- Victoria Mason 1 comment
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I am so glad everyone came out and shared their thoughts and experiences. It's been amazing and so helpful!
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Glad you were here!
about 1 year ago
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- Alexis Lesa 7 comments
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Thanks to The Motherhood and Katherine for an amazing hour, and love to all the PPD moms who've been chatting along.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
I would totally take a group hug.
about 1 year ago
Nicole
Its NOT weird! That would be really cool :)
about 1 year ago
michelle
You have no idea what all of you mean to me. I wish there was a way we could all meet and have one big gigantic group hug!!!??? Is that weird?
about 1 year ago
Cooper
Thank you!!!!!!!!!
about 1 year ago
Emily
Thank you so much!
about 1 year ago
Karen Bayne
Yes, thanks to all of you!
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Thanks Alexis. I must point out that Alexis is a regular contributor at my blog and she's awesome!
about 1 year ago
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- Victoria Mason 0 comments
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Please know I am here as well- veamason@gmail.com. Sometimes I feel like the poster child for PPD but it has been such a positive experience in the end.
about 1 year ago
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- lauren-hale 0 comments
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If anyone needs further support or has questions, I can be reached at mypostpartumvoice(@)gmail.com or on Twitter as @unxpctdblessing. I'll be here for a few more minutes but am going to practice some self care of my own shortly - a nap!
about 1 year ago
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- lauren-hale 2 comments
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You can also find support at my blog, My Postpartum Voice (http://www.mypostpartumvoice.com) and on Twitter every Monday at 1pm & 830pm EST at #PPDChat!
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Yes, the PPD chats on Twitter are awesome. Definitely join in.
about 1 year ago
Cooper
Wonderful.
about 1 year ago
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- Nicole 3 comments
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Thank you so much for everyone that was here and for all your support and kind words! I know I have said it before, but it is nice to NOT be alone!
about 1 year ago
Nicole
Glad to be here! It was very emotional for me, but nice and comforting at the same time! Thank you again everyone for all the support!
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
So glad you were here Nicole!
about 1 year ago
lauren-hale
((hugs)) You are certainly not alone! You've got all of us! ;-) Glad you are here with us.
about 1 year ago
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- lauren-hale 1 comment
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Closing the laptop now. I'll check my email in a bit for any messages/comments I may have missed. Thank you again to Katherine and to The Motherhood (Emily & Cooper) for hosting this much needed discussion! You ladies rock!
Warmest,
Lauren Hale
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
Bye L!
about 1 year ago
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- Katherine Stone 0 comments
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OK. Off to pick up the kids. Please, please, please know that there are people who care about you and who understand. NEVER hesitate to reach out to one of us directly if you need help, or have a question, or aren't sure where to turn. Thanks Emily and Cooper!
about 1 year ago
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- Amber Koter 0 comments
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Goodbye for now, y'all. Hope to "see" you again during one the chats, on one of our blogs or here! Take good care of you.
about 1 year ago
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- Katherine Stone 1 comment
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FYI, here's a list of specialized treatment programs around the country. These feature people who are experts in treating everything from depression and anxiety during pregnancy to psychosis: http://www.postpartumprogress.com/weblog/2009/11/3-womens-mental-health-treatment-programs-specialists-us-canada-australia.html
Thankfully, more are being created as healthcare institutions realize the importance of having women's mental health programs.
about 1 year ago
Katherine Stone
AND, before I forget, if you are looking for people who know what the resources are in your state, visit the Postpartum Support International website at http://www.postpartum.net/Get-Help/Support-Resources-Map-Area-Coordinators.aspx
about 1 year ago
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- Jennifer 2 comments
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I wrote about my experience on my site once: http://www.jleighdesignz.com/2010/03/motherhood-monday-3-baby-blues.html
about 1 year ago
Jennifer
aww thanks! It felt good to write.
about 1 year ago
Nicole
What an amazing story! YOU are a very strong woman! Good for you for listening to your parents and seeking the help that you needed to take care of you and your son! ((hugs))
about 1 year ago
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Postpartum Sadness, Depression & Anxiety – Highlights from the Talk
Here in TheMotherhood, we are continually awed by the collective wisdom of moms and how we help each other to make things a little better every day.
Yesterday, we saw this goodness in action in a really big way.
We hosted a live chat on postpartum depression and anxiety, led by experts and mom bloggers who went through PPD themselves. The love and support and information shared were incredibly valuable and beautiful.
And, so many of the important facts shared AREN’T WIDELY KNOWN.
We all need to know how widespread postpartum depression and anxiety is (up to 20% of moms get it), that it can appear during pregnancy, immediately afterwards or even months and months after childbirth.
PPD doesn’t always look like depression. Sometimes it can manifest as anxiety and/or OCD behavior and compulsions.
There are drugs you can take while breastfeeding.
And most importantly, as the wonderful Katherine Stone said, for everyone going through it, you need to know that PPD is TEMPORARY and TREATABLE. You will feel better, and these amazing, loving women are here to help and support you.
Katherine Stone, who blogs at the widely read Postpartum Progress, led the conversation and was joined by clinical psychologist Dr. Shoshana Bennett, and four stellar mom bloggers, Lauren Hale, Amber Koter-Puline, Alexis Lesa and Victoria Mason.
Following are some quotes from the conversation. (Really, though, they are just a sampling. Read the whole chat and be sure to click on “view all comments” under each post - on the “symptoms of PPD” post, for example, there are 22 comments.)
You Will Not Always Feel Like This
I want to kick off by saying the most important thing about postpartum depression and anxiety, or any mental illness related to pregnancy, childbirth and new motherhood: It's not your fault, and what you have is TEMPORARY and TREATABLE. (Katherine Stone)
You will be yourself again, and will be *honestly* happy again. You will love life, love being a mom, and love your kids... it is TEMPORARY! And support is here :) (Kim Rogers)
PPD creates a different person within the person. When I was at my worst, I felt like someone else was living in my body, and it was the most frightening thing I'd ever experienced. But it was even more horrifying when I thought that the things I was doing was because of the person I was. When I finally realized that the PPD was causing very different actions and reactions than my normal self would do, my attitude toward myself changed a lot. (Alexis Lesa)
You Are Not Alone
Hugs here too. I had four bouts of PPD, and made it through. You WILL survive this. Keep in touch with women here, you will get better. (mindimer)
I suffered from this after the birth of my first son and during my pregnancy with my second son and after his birth. It was a long battle … I am doing much better. I think it is so important to spread the word about this and how it isn’t just a few weeks of the “blues.” (Shannon)
I would want moms suffering right now to know that it won't always be so dark and hopeless. You aren't alone. More and more moms are sharing their experiences and reaching out to other moms. As we do this, it increases awareness, builds support, and we can also help encourage each other to seek good professional help. (lauren-hale)
1 in 8 new moms in the US develops a Postpartum Mood Disorder. (lauren-hale)
While the CDC states that approx. 12% of women get PPD, we believe the numbers are much higher. After all, the CDC's numbers are based on self-reported cases, and many women never report their illness. I believe it's around 20%. And in areas where there is high poverty, it's 25%. (Katherine Stone)
You Are Not Weak
Feeling vulnerable isn't weakness. Those of us who have "been there" certainly understand what it feels like to be shaky after a depression or anxiety, when we didn't feel shaky before. If the level of fear is high, or you find yourself obsessing about it, talk with someone with expertise who can reassure you. Often with this extra bit of education you can learn to self-calm instantly. (Dr. Shosh)
It was really hard to admit that I was so depressed, but such a relief once I got help. I was treated with meds and saw a therapist briefly. I still see this as one of my strongest moments, not my weakest. (Holly)
Don’t Be Afraid to Ask for Help
If the normal, mild Baby Blues aren't gone by about 3 weeks postpartum and they linger, get help. Also, if the severity of the symptoms get in the way of your daily life, even if it's immediately following the delivery, don't wait - get help right away. If a woman isn't able to sleep AT NIGHT when her baby is sleeping, this is also a warning sign to get help now. (Dr. Shosh)
It's such a tough road to travel, especially when the therapy you've tried isn't working. It's so crucial to communicate with your caregivers about how things are going. Remaining silent only hurts you. Your caregivers are only able to help you with what you share. (lauren-hale)
Where I used to live, there was a wonderful support group that I attended, and it was great! I still stay in contact with the nurse who runs it as well as a couple of the other moms. (Nicole)
I'd love them to know two things: don't be afraid, ashamed to seek help and also there is a long life ahead and PPD is a bump in the road of life and can be a maturing experience from which to draw depth & strength later on in life. (Kathy Morelli)
Sometimes women hesitate to reach out and seek help/treatment because they find themselves on a roller coaster daily, hourly or even by the minute. Feeling like your emotions are not easy to regulate right now is definitely something I would encourage you to share with your doctor. (Amber Koter)
PPD Can Develop Anytime
Can PPD develop months after birth? (Sara)
Absolutely! It did for me both times. I would hit the two-month mark and BAM! I'm six week post-birth right now with my third and getting a little freaked out. I keep waiting for it to hit me like a truck. (Victoria Mason)
Yes. It can show up in the first couple of months, but some women don't get it, or don't notice it, until much later. (Katherine Stone)
PPD can begin any time within the first year following delivery. But, there's nothing to be afraid of - you just need a wellness strategy. (Dr. Shosh)
There's a huge difference between postpartum depression (PPD) and postpartum psychosis (PPP). If PPP is going to occur, it typically is there within the first month (it usually begins within the first few days following delivery). (Dr. Shosh)
There are alternative methods of treatment that can also be used to help prevent another occurrence, such as acupuncture, massage, blocking blue light therapy (http://lowbluelights.com), and so on. (Dr. Shosh)
Give Yourself Time
The best advice my mom gave me in the thick of it all was to stop watching the clock. Once I did, such a weight lifted off my shoulders. After all, if you're not watching the clock, the clock can't "watch" you! (lauren-hale)
It's important to know that there is no exact timeline for recovery. The length of time it takes to get better depends on so many things: the severity of your illness, how much support you have, how long you had the illness before you reached out for help, how effective the treatment is that you are taking. Make sure not to compare your recovery to anyone else's (not that you are). Instead, keep communicating with your doctor about your symptoms so he or she can see if the plan you have is working or if changes need to be made. (Katherine Stone)
It can take a mom with no events after birth up to 2 years to fully recover emotionally and physically after the birth of a child. Recovery is such a slippery slope with no real time frame. It depends on you, the success of the therapy you're involved in, what's going on, what continues to happen with you, etc. (lauren-hale)
Planning Another Pregnancy After PPD
It's important to find a specialist in perinatal mental health whenever possible - otherwise it can be so frustrating (as you've already experienced)! With an excellent plan of action for your next pregnancy, you can help minimize - and often prevent - another episode. (Dr. Shosh)
Having another child after postpartum is a very personal decision. I would recommend reading "What Am I Thinking: Having a Baby After Postpartum" by Karen Kleiman. As for how to deal with it while pregnant, Dr. Shosh has an excellent book - "Pregnant on Prozac" which addresses this issue better than any book I've ever read. (lauren-hale)
Research does show that you have an increased risk of getting it again if you've had it once, but that's not a guarantee. The best thing to do would be to work with a psychiatrist or other perinatal mental health specialist to create a plan and look out for you. (Katherine Stone)
Take Care of Yourself
Whatever you can do that makes YOU feel better is a good thing. Don't worry about what makes other people feel better - do what you like. Some like exercise, or being outdoors, or taking a shower, or listening to music, or lighting a candle. Whatever. (Katherine Stone)
I have had great results with Celexa. And as corny as this sounds- exercise has been a lifesaver for me. I go out for a run or a walk or to the gym and it saves me. I journaled the first time around too. I talked with a lot of women in the same boat online as well. (Victoria Mason)
Talk to a psychiatrist. They can usually help you find the right prescription/dosage. It's not an exact science, so sometimes it takes more than one try. (Alexis Lesa)
The truth is that different meds work differently for different people. So what one person says worked for them on this forum really doesn't matter. Your body is unique. That's why you have to talk continuously and openly about your symptoms and side effects. Also, if you feel your doc isn't listening or you are getting nowhere, it's ok to get a new one. You can always ask one of us who the specialists are, as there may be one in your area. (Katherine Stone)
The Hosts
The wonderful women who co-hosted the Talk were:
Katherine Stone
Blog: Postpartum Progress: www.postpartumprogress.com
Email: stonecallis@gmail.com
Twitter: @postpartumprogr
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Postpartum-Progress/140443741228
Shoshana Bennett, Ph.D., Clinical Psychologist
Website: http://drshosh.com
Email: DrShosh@DrShosh.com
Twitter: @DrShosh
Lauren B. Hale
Blog: My Postpartum Voice http://www.mypostpartumvoice.com
Twitter chats every Monday at 1pm & 830pm EST at #PPDChat
Email: mypostpartumvoice@gmail.com
Twitter: @unxpctdblessing
Victoria Mason
Blog: The Mummy Chronicles http://www.themummychronicles.com
Email: veamason@gmail.com
Twitter: @Veamason
Amber Koter-Puline
Blog: Beyond Postpartum http://www.atlantappdmom.blogspot.com/
Email: atlantamom930@gmail.com
Twitter: @atlantamom
Alexis Lesa
Blog: Depressions and Confessions http://www.depressionsandconfessions.com/
Email: alexistlesa@gmail.com
Twitter: @alexistlesa
Resources for You and Your Partner
List of PPD and PPA Symptoms http://www.postpartumprogress.com/weblog/2009/11/the-symptoms-of-postpartum-depression-anxiety-in-plain-mama-english-1.html
The Edinburgh assessment is available here, as well as a phone number for depression support: http://www.virtua.org/health/depression-and-pregnancy/overview.aspx
The Postpartum Dads Project: http://postpartumdadsproject.org/
Postpartum Support International hosts a once monthly free call just for dads to get information and support. Find out more here: http://postpartum.net/Get-Help/PSI-Chat-with-an-Expert.aspx#chats_for_men
Been-there dad blog: http://www.daddysdown.com
Dr. Courtenay's site for men with Paternal Postnatal Depression: http://www.saddaddy.com
about 1 year ago
It used to be that no one talked about postpartum depression. Thankfully those days are behind us and we have each other. Join a group mom bloggers who have LIVED this topic, having gone through it themselves and blogged about it extensively. We'll talk about how to get through PPD or help someone else get through it, issues on your mind (there's been a lot of talk about breastfeeding while on medication, for example) and give each other all the love and support we possibly can. Leading the conversation will be Katherine Stone, the author of Postpartum Progress, the most widely read blog on postpartum depression, and a group of really wonderful mom bloggers. Bring your questions, share your experience and find out about the great new resources that exist!
Cooper
We are so happy to have you! Thank you for being a part of the conversation!